I'll be keeping the commitment I made to you all back in early August-- and be in front of Rhinebeck Town Hall Wednesday October 7th at 7:30 pm at 80 East Market Street ready to answer questions from you all-- in spite of my Republican/Conservative opponent Pat Dealy failing to keep commitment Dealy made Aug. 4th to debate me at Town Hall Oct. 7th...(recall Freeman article Sunday re: 10/7debate!)...
[note-- none of this email has anything to do w/John Wirth or Jeff Romano; both great with debate last Weds.]
Incredibly, after Dealy had made commitment (in Aug. 4th email below) to me to debate Oct. 7th, Monday night Dealy actually called me directly to back out and renege on commitment Dealy made on this...
See email exchange (scroll down a bit) from Aug. 4th below between Dealy and myself--Dealy literally took a month to respond to me after I immediately agreed the same day I was asked (Aug. 4th) to Dealy's challenge for debates Sept. 23rd, Oct. 7th, and Oct. 21st...
Dealy failed to make arrangements to save Rhinebeck Town Hall for Oct. 7th; now a Zoning Board meeting is scheduled upstairs in the main room at Rhinebeck Town Hall, and a Collaboration Committee meeting is scheduled for downstairs at the Town Hall the same night...
So again-- I myself will be standing in front of Rhinebeck Town Hall Oct. 7th at 7:30pm willing to answer questions from my constituents and waiting to ask Mr. Dealy the 20 questions below and run on my record-- 40 things I've accomplished since'03 (see: http://dutchessdemocracy.blogspot.com/2009/08/dutchess-progressive-help-make-it.html ):
[please feel free to ask Mr. Dealy these twenty questions yourself, folks!....(and pass 'em along to all u know)]
1. Why did Dealy call me Sept. 28th telling me he didn't want debate me Oct. 7th at Rhinebeck Town Hall?
2. Why did Dealy call me a "two-bit cheapskate" Sept. 28th during call backing away from Oct. 7th debate?
3. Why 6 days after my challenge is Dealy still not agreeing to debate with questions being unknown?
4. Why did Dealy take 30 days to respond to me after I agreed Aug. 4 yes to debates 10/7, 10/21, 9/23?
5. Why did Dealy tell me to my face Sept. 5th to "get a job"-- when I've been teaching students since '87?
6. Why did Dealy at 9/23 debate say water contamination is only "just a couple hotspots south of us"?
[fact: Albany Times-Union has repeatedly found groundwater contamination in every town in the county:
see http://www.RealMajorityProject.blogspot.com http://www.ToxicsTargeting.com ]
7. Why did Dealy at 9/23 debate oppose well-testing law favored by Ed Haas, Marge Horton, Pok. Journal?
[see: http://www.petitiononline.com/cleanh20 -- Poughkeepsie Journal has repeatedly editorialized for this]
8. Why did Dealy at 9/23 debate lie-- saying my Green Ribbon report calls for shutting down the DCRRA?
[see: http://dutchessdemocracy.blogspot.com/2009/09/dealy-lies-3x-in-debate-fact-is-green.html ]
9. Why did Dealy at 9/23 debate lie-- saying my Green Ribbon report calls for two new landfills in county?
[see: http://dutchessdemocracy.blogspot.com/2009/09/dealy-lies-3x-in-debate-fact-is-green.html ]
10. Why does Dealy attack me on waste at DCRRA when I've led the investigation for accountability there?
[see: http://dutchessdemocracy.blogspot.com/2009/09/dealy-lies-3x-in-debate-fact-is-green.html ]
11. Why is Dealy for raising LOOP bus fares on seniors and disabled-- with $800,000-plus LOOP surplus?
http://www.alany.org/atf/cf/%7B3ADABC12-D6E0-407C-9464-9209C6DB0D0E%7D/ART-7-16-09%20Poughkeepsie%20Journal.pdf
12. Why does Dealy blame me for county tax hike-- when Dems cut County Exec budget by $5 million?
13. Why does Dealy blame me for county tax hike-- when G.O.P. County Exec's vetoes added $6 million?
14. Why does Dealy disagree with Lucille Pattison & Poughkeepsie Journal re: campaign finance reform?
[see: http://dutchessdemocracy.blogspot.com/2009/08/re-pay-to-play-in-dutchess-county-brand.html ]
15. Why does Dealy ignore savings possible for taxpayers w/PLA's; proven by Pagones and 9-11 center?
[see: http://dutchessdemocracy.blogspot.com/2009/09/facts-re-plas-electrician-licensing.html ]
16. Why does Dealy disagree with Daily Freeman and United Way on need for cost-saving bail loan fund?
[see http://www.OARTompkins.com -- there are now literally 55 in our county jail with bail of $2000 or less]
17. Why does Dealy reject $1,000,000 in savings annually if some accused of nonviolent misdemeanors?
[see: http://dutchessdemocracy.blogspot.com/2009/09/dealys-pathetic-attacks-rebutted-below.html ]
18. Why has Dealy attacked my creating Independent Dutchess Energy Alliance-- when Roger Akeley for?
[see: http://www.CambridgeEnergyAlliance.org -- on track to save $160 million on electric bills in ten years]
19. Why does Dealy ignore how Independent Dutchess Energy Alliance could save $1 billion in 10 years?
[see: http://www.LIGreenHomes.com -- Town of Babylon, L.I. makes loans for energy-efficiency and solar]
20. Why is Dealy against 0.75% real-estate transfer tax saving farms/open space when Robbie Long for it?"
[click on my petition-- http://www.PetitionOnline.com/SaveLand -- Robbie Long is signature/comment 70]
Pass it on...
Joel
242-3571/876-2488
324 Browns Pond Road
Staatsburg, NY 12580
[again-- your 250-word letters needed now to letterstoeditor@poughkeepsiejournal.com, folks!!!]
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Here below is the letter Pat Dealy sent to me Aug. 4th (I answered same day with response below):
[again-- question still is: why did Dealy literally take 30 days to answer my email a bit below?]
From: Pat Dealy
Subject: Re: District 11
Date: Aug 4, 2009
Hello Joel;
My name is Pat Dealy and I am seeking to represent the people of Clinton and Rhinebeck in the County Legislature on November 3rd.
I bet you share my enthusiasm for giving the voters a chance to see us discuss our qualifications, ideas, and records in person.
Please accept my invitation to appear at two "town-hall" style forums (September 23rd at the Clinton Town Hall and October 7th at the Rhinebeck Town Hall). On September 23rd, let's discuss property taxes and the County Budget and on October 7th, we should cover other issues of specific interest to the people of Clinton and Rhinebeck like the LOOP service, Dutchess Community College, and the RRA. Both meetings should encourage a free-flowing dialogue with voters.
On October 21st, we should have a debate at the high school along the lines of your debate with Ray Oberly in 2007. I thought, as a voter, that is was an effective venue.
I invite you to work with me to establish some ground rules and to identify and recruit fair and effective moderators.
I look forward to working with you.
Sincerely,
Pat Dealy
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Here below is response I sent back to Dealy within an hour of my receiving Dealy's letter above:
[my responses to Dealy are indented; Dealy's text from his original letter to me is not indented]
From: Joel Tyner
To: Pat Dealy
Subject: Re: District 11
Date: Aug 4, 2009 2:10 PM
Hi Pat!...
Hello Joel;
My name is Pat Dealy and I am seeking to represent the people of Clinton and Rhinebeck in the County Legislature on November 3rd.
I hear!...may the best man win...
I bet you share my enthusiasm for giving the voters a chance to see us discuss our qualifications, ideas, and records in person.
Amen...
Please accept my invitation to appear at two "town-hall" style forums (September 23rd at the Clinton Town Hall and October 7th at the Rhinebeck Town Hall). On September 23rd, let's discuss property taxes and the County Budget and on October 7th, we should cover other issues of specific interest to the people of Clinton and Rhinebeck like the LOOP service, Dutchess Community College, and the RRA. Both meetings should encourage a free-flowing dialogue with voters.
On October 21st, we should have a debate at the high school along the lines of your debate with Ray Oberly in 2007. I thought, as a voter, that is was an effective venue.
I invite you to work with me to establish some ground rules and to identify and recruit fair and effective moderators.
I'm ok for all three of those!...
[...and hopefully Clinton United or the Clinton Business Association or some other organization will sponsor the traditional Friday-in-October candidates night for Clinton Town Board candidates and county legislator candidates as well...]
I look forward to working with you.
Sounds good...
Hm...ground rules...how about two-minute openers, two-minute closers, 1-minute rebuttals allowed to other's answers to questions, flip of coin to see who goes first?...
[or...three-minute openers, two-minute closers?...your thoughts?]
As for moderators...hm...can we possibly get folks from Mid-Hudson League of Women Voters?...(see http://midhudson.ny.lwvnet.org/ ; I've found them to be pretty fair in the past)...
Joel
489-5479
Sincerely,
Pat Dealy
1 comment:
Hi Joel,
I read Jim Langan's hatchet job on you in his new newspaper.
I would be interested in reading about what really happened at Rhinebeck High School. It seem's like he takes everything the teenagers say at face value. An unusual trait for a conservative.
Joe Calabro 11/14/09
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